Relearning Leadership Podcast

Stories for leaders by leaders. This unique podcast series connects leaders and experts to help all of us learn and relearn how to be better leaders.

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60: Season 5 Premiere | Into the Fog with Pete Behrens

Welcome to Season 5 of Relearning Leadership

In this special episode of Relearning Leadership, host Pete Behrens shares the story behind his new book, Into the Fog: Leadership Stories from the Edge of Uncertainty.

Through personal reflection and honest storytelling, Pete reveals how uncertainty, community, and courage have shaped his 20-year leadership journey—from losing his corporate role to founding Trail Ridge Consulting and finally, founding Agile Leadership Journey.

Hear how the “fog” became his most enduring metaphor for leadership and why no one makes it through alone.

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The current ways of leading are failing to meet the challenges of our disrupted workforces.

Today’s leaders have a choice.

Are you ready to evolve your mindset and accelerate change within your organization?

Join Pete Behrens and other leading experts as they speak freely and deeply about their journeys to grow and improve as leaders. It’s time to pivot. Plug-in to relearn leadership.

Traditional ways of leading are failing to meet the challenges of our time. Organizations and their leaders are increasingly facing global disruptions resulting from climate change, social turmoil, technological advancement, political polarization and more. Such disruptions do not occur in isolation, and they are further complicated by how they intersect.

The Relearning Leadership Podcast™, is a resource designed to help leaders navigate the complexities of modern business and personal challenges. It's about exploring real leadership issues and discussing ways to reprogram leadership approaches, organizations, and personal lives to be more adaptable to change.

As a leader, this podcast can help you by providing insights into how to evolve your mindset and practices in a rapidly changing environment. It covers a range of topics relevant to leaders at all levels, such as managing remote teams, leading change, and fostering a culture of collaboration and innovation. This leadership podcast encourages leaders to be vulnerable, to acknowledge their limitations, and to see diversity as a strength.

Moreover, it includes discussions on the shift from traditional to agile leadership, emphasizing the importance of agility and iteration for a company's survival. It also explores the human element of leadership, the connection between leadership and organizational culture, and the necessity of feedback as a continuous learning process.

Pete Behrens, founder and CEO of the Agile Leadership Journey and executive leadership coach. As an engineer by profession, Pete now helps leaders improve their own thinking and behaviors to become more focused, responsive, and resilient to change.

Pete has been guiding leaders since 2005 to be more adaptive and resilient. He developed the Certified Enterprise Coaching (CEC) and the Certified Agile Leadership (CAL) Programs for the Scrum Alliance.

Pete lives with his partner Jana. Together they love exploring nature and traveling the globe to connect with their family, friends, and this growing leadership community.

Through this podcast, Pete will explore leader challenges with real in-the-trenches leaders. However, that is not the end of the story. Pete also brings in a cast of experts across a wide range of leadership disciplines to analyze what we can learn from these stories. Through this podcast, Pete (re)maps the leadership landscape through stories from his personal journey, from leaders who are still in-the-trenches on their own journey, and from experts across the globe who have discovered new paths to explore.

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